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Post by Robyn on Aug 10, 2012 23:40:22 GMT
Hope you can get some sleep tonight, at least! You've been changing the times when you take your oestradiol, haven't you? Could you not go back to your original time, which IIRC was ok until you missed one? I'd go with what the other ladies have said, too, and stick with the diazepam for the moment. This may sound weird, but when we had our last dog, he had two difficult to manage conditions - epilepsy & epi (pancreatic insufficiency - which meant that he couldn't digest his food properly). The advice given by the vet, which I've never forgotten was to only change one thing at a time, if things went out of sync. If you change both meds at the same time, then you may find that you don't know which has made the difference. It is logical when you think about it - maybe you just need more time to get settled on your current regime. Anyway Nighty night, from another insomniac! Gxx Yes for the last few days I've gone back to taking the oestradiol in the late afternoon. To be honest though I'm now thinking that my problems have got nothing to do with missing that one tablet or the time of day that I take it. I'm really starting to think that taking the Utrogestan on alternate days over the last 2 1/2 months is now becoming too much for me. At least I'm hoping that's the problem because at least I can try a different dosage regime. I'm just staying away from it totally for the next few weeks to see what happens. Thanks to the other ladies for their comments - even the ones about Hugh - ahhhh darling Hugh..... |
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Post by Robyn on Aug 11, 2012 23:11:21 GMT
Last night was no better even though I took 6mg of diazepam which is higher than I've ever taken in my life. I only slept for an hour here and there and I had at least one distinct hot flush, and another minor warm flush.
I'm having my doubts that the oestradiol is working, so I've just gotten my prescription for Premarin filled today. I thought it was going to be a lot more expensive than the oestradiol, because it's not covered under our PBS, but it's not too bad ($21 for 1 month). I'm still going to keep off the Utrogestan for at least a month because I want to see what's working and what's not.
When I spoke with the Chemist and told her my problems, she actually said they have a lot more people taking Premarin than oestradiol, so I don't know if that's an indication of other women having problems with the oestradiol too. I'm taking the .625mg dose, but she confirmed that there is another one that is higher, so if this one doesn't work I can go higher. I'll just have to wait and see. I really hope this one will be the answer because I just don't know how many more of these meno-meltdowns I can endure.
I've been very naughty though. I got the prescription filled at 10am this morning so I took a tablet straight away, and I'm going to take another one before I go to bed. I know the doctor/chemist would say that's wrong, but I don't care. There will be a good 8-10 hours between doses, and I want to get it into my system as quickly as possible.
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Post by Robyn on Aug 12, 2012 8:02:33 GMT
Yes I am normally quite active, although when I'm going through these issues I usually can't be bothered, but I don't notice any difference with my sleep patterns when I do exercise.
I've only tried the conti regime with the Utro so far. I've been trying to persevere with that because I was told that it can take a while to settle, but it's been 2 1/2 months now and things still don't seem to be settling. I'm also uncertain if it could be causing some of my problems because it's progesterone, so I've decided to keep off it all together for at least a month. If things are going okay then I will try the 2 month regime for a while to see how things go with that.
I think I have perserved with the oestradiol tablets long enough. It's over a month now, plus I was on the patches prior to that, and things have only gotten worse instead of better, so that's enough. I can't tolerate the anxiety and insomnia anymore.
My fear is that I'm going to be one of those women that HRT just doesn't help, and if that's the case I really don't know what I'm going to do.
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Post by gobe on Aug 12, 2012 8:40:27 GMT
aww Robyn what a horrible time for you right now. You must be at your wits' end with lack of sleep. I really do hope things start to improve for you soon.  |
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Post by stumpy on Aug 12, 2012 16:30:04 GMT
Hi
Ive been using that magnesium oil spray (night one) it seems to help quite alot.
Stumpy xx
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Post by Poppy on Aug 12, 2012 16:52:13 GMT
Hi Robyn, just caught up with this thread, haven't got anything useful to add I'm afraid, but sorry to hear that you've been going through such a rough spell.xx
Stumpy, I've been using the magnesium oil spray (not the night one) & although used it for quite some time, it still stings quite a lot.
Do you find this?
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Post by jacksfullofaces on Aug 12, 2012 17:46:03 GMT
Pinky
I don't know about the pub but we visited the ice cream parlour.
Jacks
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Post by jacksfullofaces on Aug 12, 2012 17:48:37 GMT
Yes I am normally quite active, although when I'm going through these issues I usually can't be bothered, but I don't notice any difference with my sleep patterns when I do exercise. I've only tried the conti regime with the Utro so far. I've been trying to persevere with that because I was told that it can take a while to settle, but it's been 2 1/2 months now and things still don't seem to be settling. I'm also uncertain if it could be causing some of my problems because it's progesterone, so I've decided to keep off it all together for at least a month. If things are going okay then I will try the 2 month regime for a while to see how things go with that. I think I have perserved with the oestradiol tablets long enough. It's over a month now, plus I was on the patches prior to that, and things have only gotten worse instead of better, so that's enough. I can't tolerate the anxiety and insomnia anymore. My fear is that I'm going to be one of those women that HRT just doesn't help, and if that's the case I really don't know what I'm going to do. Robyn It can take a while to get the right regime so try not to despair. I think your idea of a hysterectomy is a good one. Judging by what you have said your estrogen levels are not optimal yet. Jacks |
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Post by Robyn on Aug 12, 2012 22:38:17 GMT
Thank you everyone for your comments. Last night was better. I woke a couple of times, but was able to go back to sleep again, so got pretty much a good 8 hours sleep. Mind you I did take 6mg of sleepers again, but at least it worked last night unlike the night before when it had no effect at all.
I still have a bit of mild anxiety today, mainly I suppose because I'm unsure if things are improving or if last night was just a fluke. I just have to keep positive thoughts. Maybe the Premarin is what will help me. Fingers crossed.
Bella - Not sure what my lining is like. I've been having regular 2 weekly bleeds that have been of a reasonable flow. I think I will try the 2 monthly regime, but I'm not sure about using the 200mg. Do you think 100mg would be enough to work after 2 months? Utro may not be my problem at all, so 200mg may not be a problem for me. I know you use 200mg, so I guess like everything it's trial and error. I've never had a scan done. I did mention it once to my GP but I think she misunderstood what I meant, or perhaps I didn't explain properly what I was talking about. Perhaps once everything has settled again (hopefully) I'll have a more indepth conversation with her about it. Not sure if that kind of thing is covered under our Medicare, but I have got private health insurance so hopefully they will pay something towards it.
Wart - I've heard other people giving good reports about Premarin. I guess I've always been a bit negative about it because of the equine side of things, but to be honest I think I've now gotten to the point where if someone told me to drink horse's pee straight I'd do it. I've never heard anything about not using melatonin with benzos. Can you tell me more about that? My GP has given me a prescription for melatonin, but I don't use it that often because I've never really found it that useful.
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Post by gobe on Aug 13, 2012 8:37:13 GMT
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Post by Robyn on Aug 13, 2012 9:15:16 GMT
Thanks Bella. I have started a bleed today, which is to be expected. So if everything goes okay I'll keep off the Utro until the end of Sept/beginning of Oct and then try the 200mg. If I find that's too much to tolerate I might have to do the monthly thing. Mind you, if the Utro is causing some of my problems, it has taken two months to appear, so maybe just using 200mg vaginally every couple of months for a week or so won't affect me too much - hopefully....
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Post by jacksfullofaces on Aug 13, 2012 13:19:46 GMT
My husband had a lengthy bout of insomnia a few years ago due to chicken pox. I called our GP and he immediately issued a prescription for nitrazepam and told me it was far more important for my husband to sleep rather then worry unduly about using a sedative.
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Post by stumpy on Aug 13, 2012 15:43:16 GMT
Magnesium Oil Night Spray
It tingled more than stung for a few nights at first.
Is fine now.
I spray it on my calves - 2 squirts each just as I get into bed.
Stumpy xx
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Post by Poppy on Aug 13, 2012 17:09:33 GMT
Oh Stumpy, I've been spraying it on all over, maybe that's why it's been stinging...  xx |
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Post by stumpy on Aug 13, 2012 18:38:49 GMT
Oh Poppy, yes that would do it!!!
Bless you, ouch i can imagine how that feels.
Stumpy xx
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