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Post by beaglelady on Aug 21, 2012 12:06:31 GMT
Sorry I need a moan. My gp surgery called me as they have been trying to refer me to a meno clinic 30 miles away from me. Apparently as I am out of area I have to go on a deferred waiting list ? I asked to speak to the lady gp who referred me and who has been looking after me for two years to be told she has now left ! I dont rate any of the others. My current gynae who I pay is unavailable and im fed up having to battle when I feel rubbish. Sorry ill breathe now.
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Post by susan on Aug 21, 2012 13:34:06 GMT
i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa394/Cybe2005/smiley-happy065.gif [/IMG] that is such a rubbish set of things to happen beaglelady. My biggest nightmare is that the lady GP at my surgery will leave, goodness knows what I would do then either go private which I don't feel I should have to do or end up buying a load of stuff of of t'intenet. But the later is not much cop if you need medical expertise to go along with the actual meds. I hope you manage to sort something out. xxxx
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Post by gobe on Aug 21, 2012 13:37:42 GMT
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Post by jacksfullofaces on Aug 21, 2012 13:39:16 GMT
Are you happy with your current hormone regime? If not what problems are you having with it. Jacks
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Post by Robyn on Aug 22, 2012 7:15:19 GMT
Go ahead and moan BL - it's good for the soul...lol...
I don't understand the system you guys have about meno clinics etc. Here in Australia we don't have meno clinics. We just go to our local GP. If you don't like that person, you just keep looking around until you find one you like. I'm lucky that I have a really lovely GP and I'm hoping she stays in practice for at least the next 30 years, so she's around as long as I need her..lol....
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Post by jacksfullofaces on Aug 22, 2012 8:18:07 GMT
Robyn Our system is either NHS - state governed or private medicine. The local GPs may do hormones then again they might decide they don't know or care enough. If this is the case there are a few state clinics dealing in menopause which usually have waiting lists. THen we have the private sector where you choose exactly who and what treatment you want and all that is required is a healthy bank balance and voila you get a quick appointment. Jacks
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Post by susan on Aug 22, 2012 10:32:07 GMT
Robyn
It's exactly has Jacks has said. These NHS menopause clinics are few & far between and can involve many women in 120 mile round trip, to get more or less what an NHS GP who could be bothered to look information up could provide anyway.
One of the reasons I really persevere with my GP and haven't resorted to Private (exorbitantly priced) services or just bying hormones off of the internet, is because I genuinelywant to get through to the NHS that many menopausal women need HRT to achieve quality of life.
I feel for every script I get written by an NHS Doctor I am further endorsing that there is an interest and need for these preparations.
So a form of political statement, with a small p,. I feel strongly that HRT should be available to any woman who wants it and easily available, with good monitoring and advice - it's my small way of doing my bit for any future menopausal women who need it.
Infact it is mainly that which stops me from running off to a private gynea who specialises in menopause.
I'll get off me soap box now........................
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How are you feeling today beaglelady ?
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Post by beaglelady on Aug 22, 2012 11:15:51 GMT
Susan. I wish I could get my care via nhs. My gps apart from the lady who has now left admit they know little about hrt. Can only hope her replacement is good. Im very achy and sore still. My current gynae has told my surgery to get me on the testosterone patches for a few weeks to see if that helps. He has arranged a call with me when he is back from hols. Thanks for asking x
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Post by jacksfullofaces on Aug 22, 2012 11:25:06 GMT
It isn't that general practitioners don't know - the facts are that they are instructed by PCTS not to know. I chatted with one of our the doctors at our practice - he sits on the comittee of a PCT and told me that it is political and an attempt to avoid paying for the hormones. I told him this was short sighted 1 in 3 beds in hospital occupied by women suffering from illness caused by menopause. Doctor agreed I was right.
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Post by susan on Aug 22, 2012 11:49:05 GMT
I think that is why I keep plugging away with the NHS it hacks me off big time that this is some kind of political issue, and that PCT's are actively taking this anti hormone stance. I'm not some mad women's libber, that just is not me, but it seems like an 'anti woman' policy. I would also go privately if I was in your shoes beaglelady, i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa394/Cybe2005/smiley-happy065.gif [/IMG] you come to a point where enough is enough and you just have to look after number one and try and get well somehow. Some women are so ill with hormonal issues that they just haven't got the stomach for the fight, I fully understand that. Don't even get me started on the three NHS Gyneas I have seen , they knew nothing about menopause and were clueless on HRT all saying different things. This is another issue as women think getting to see an NHS gynea is the end of a journey, but it's just the beginning sometimes. Most of them specialise but until you start delving into it your average woman in the street doesn't realise this. There are far more gyneas for fertility issues, female gynea illnesses, performing ops etc than menopause. It's like many specialist areas within that specialism there are different disciplines, I don't begrudge the other disciplines their gyneas as it is all very important, but I would like to see a few more menopause specialists as 50% of the population that get to a certain age will go through it at some point xxxx
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Post by beaglelady on Aug 22, 2012 12:10:45 GMT
Pinky ill gladly accept your hug :-) the only other surgery near me that has a decent gp is not taking new patients. I have asked to be on their list. My gynae to be fair is good when he is around I will allow him a break god knows he needs one dealing with me ! And yes I have a lot of surgery previously mainly done by my current chap and after a very bad experience with another surgeon via nhs I do completely trust my chap so do feel he has looked after me so far but I want to feel better and he has never said he wouldnt help me with a second opinion. Sorry have gone on.
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Post by susan on Aug 22, 2012 12:16:21 GMT
Pinky ill gladly accept your hug :-) the only other surgery near me that has a decent gp is not taking new patients. I have asked to be on their list. My gynae to be fair is good when he is around I will allow him a break god knows he needs one dealing with me ! And yes I have a lot of surgery previously mainly done by my current chap and after a very bad experience with another surgeon via nhs I do completely trust my chap so do feel he has looked after me so far but I want to feel better and he has never said he wouldnt help me with a second opinion. Sorry have gone on. You are not going on i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa394/Cybe2005/smiley-happy065.gif [/IMG] hang in there you sound like someone who perseveres with things and I believe that if you are that way inclined you will get there in the end. xxxx
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Post by jacksfullofaces on Aug 22, 2012 13:47:59 GMT
I think that is why I keep plugging away with the NHS it hacks me off big time that this is some kind of political issue, and that PCT's are actively taking this anti hormone stance. I'm not some mad women's libber, that just is not me, but it seems like an 'anti woman' policy. I would also go privately if I was in your shoes beaglelady, i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa394/Cybe2005/smiley-happy065.gif [/IMG] you come to a point where enough is enough and you just have to look after number one and try and get well somehow. Some women are so ill with hormonal issues that they just haven't got the stomach for the fight, I fully understand that. Don't even get me started on the three NHS Gyneas I have seen , they knew nothing about menopause and were clueless on HRT all saying different things. This is another issue as women think getting to see an NHS gynea is the end of a journey, but it's just the beginning sometimes. Most of them specialise but until you start delving into it your average woman in the street doesn't realise this. There are far more gyneas for fertility issues, female gynea illnesses, performing ops etc than menopause. It's like many specialist areas within that specialism there are different disciplines, I don't begrudge the other disciplines their gyneas as it is all very important, but I would like to see a few more menopause specialists as 50% of the population that get to a certain age will go through it at some point xxxx [/quote] Some of the trouble goes back to the pioneering IVF work in the 70's. Before IVF was possible doctors were interested in research to stop menopause. However IVF raked in oodles of cash for the drug companies and medical profession so now their motivation is to keep menopause compulsory. Wait until you see my book - I have a lot of this stuff in it. Jacks
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