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Post by jacksfullofaces on Aug 30, 2012 18:19:15 GMT
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Post by susan on Aug 30, 2012 21:23:46 GMT
I feel that is a balanced article compared to a lot of reporting, but wonder if there has been much progress in the subsequent four years ?
I would love to know now is how many scripts for HRT are issued annually for HRT now , or maybe 2010/2011.
I have seen all the headliners of 2.6 million women dropping to 1.3 million over night when to WHI was let loose on the world. But as we now know it was extremely flawed I would like to know if women have voted with their feet (or depleted hormones) and still pushed for it to be prescribed ? Especially as now all the NHS Gps want to give ard AD 's and most are still in awe of GP's and subscribe to the attitude that doctor knows best without realising they are being fed EU dogma without real thought as to what is best for their long term health.
Wonder what goes on in Country's like Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, Austria etc which aren't part of the EU but have a similar social structure to the UK.
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Post by jacksfullofaces on Aug 31, 2012 7:44:50 GMT
Susan The physiotherapist I see for vaginal exercises told me I was the first patient in the borough she had seen who is using HRT. The doctors are still trying to avoid prescribing it and even when she telephones and suggests vaginal cream for her patients - the GPs and specialists usually refuse it. Jacks
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Post by susan on Sept 1, 2012 13:19:09 GMT
It really is a pretty low way to treat woman Jacks. When you think that vaginal oestrogen has been around for about 60 years.
Current generations of women are being offered inferior health care to those of 40 years ago. How many women I wonder have ended up with a prolapse which could have been prevented with a couple of blobs of ovestin cream a week.
When you think of the amount of creams of all sorts that women put on there face that must be absorbed systemically (i read 60% of facial creams etc go systemic) the oestro is such small beer.
I wonder how many women walk in to their GP with classic menopause symptoms and the first thing the GP says is "I know exactly what will help you Mrs Bloggs, here is a 3 month prescription for oestrogel and utrogestan, stick with it ride out any. initial side effects and it will clear all your symptoms in a cheap, economic and healthy way and will stop you from getting osteoporosis into the bargain.
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Post by jacksfullofaces on Sept 1, 2012 16:51:15 GMT
Susan I know my physiotherapist is disgusted by what is happeing. Jacks
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Post by susan on Sept 2, 2012 10:42:15 GMT
I can understand that as it is impacting on her patients. I sometimes wonder if I am the only woman at my practice who is on HRT but of course have no way of knowing. I get more and more angry at the way the NHS treat the hormone issue as I feel they are actively forcing women into private health care, which is totally against the principals of the NHS. I am worried that so little of it will eventually be supplied via the NHS they will be able to put their hand on their hearts and say 'this is a product women didn't want so we are right to withdraw it' xxxx
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Post by jacksfullofaces on Sept 2, 2012 11:03:35 GMT
Susan I have a suspicion that you have hit the nail on the head. Years ago before the big scares there were mean little comments about HRT being purely a life style choice. Jacks
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Post by susan on Sept 2, 2012 13:17:17 GMT
Hi Pinky, it's a nightmare scenario really and I dont blame you for shouting.
It is bizzare as unlike many things NHS for once it doesn't seem to be prinmarily a cost issue as HRT is very inexpensive and used correctly could possibly save the NHS millions. The long term if it prevents oestoporosis and the ensuing problems that come from having that, plus if started in the 10 years after last menstrual period it also has compelling evidence to say it protects the heart as well.
I'm glad that after having your inital consults you have managed to get your HRT via the NHS as really that is where it needs to be made more easily available.
Many don't have the financial resources for even a one off private appointment and others who do may not have the confidence to make the arrangements as feel they are making a fuss if they need a referral letter from a GP. So they just accept whatever the GP says even if it is go up H&B's and by some 'erbs or take this script for AD's.
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Post by jacksfullofaces on Sept 2, 2012 16:51:38 GMT
Okay we all agree that denying HRT will ultimately cost the NHs money but look at the rest of the picture. There is huge profits created by denying women this treatment. Many doctors are gaining patients through disease caused by menopause. I reckon that quite a few have NHS consultancies helped by sheer volume of patients in menopause suffering auto immune disease, CVD, osteoporosis, Alzheimers and other illnesses associated with untreated menopause.This is income for them. Do any of you honestly believe that these specialists wish to lose patients because of HRT? Look at the government and revenue from VAT on alternative remedies The media don't push hormones because unlike alternative remedies they don't provide advertising revenue - as for the cost of mobility aids - they are expensive. Think of the number of women in care homes - they provide badly paid jobs for the employment figures. Then ask yourselves again why they would like to prevent women using oestrogen menopause =Ker ching
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Post by susan on Sept 2, 2012 20:14:22 GMT
I know Jacks, I appreciate that there is a lot of money to be made out of long living but basically infirm old lady's . Plus all the 20% VAT that goes on to the 'alternatives' products that of course isnt on hormones. As you say kerrching! xxxx
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Post by menomale on Mar 7, 2020 18:24:57 GMT
Hmmm, the 'charity' Women's Health Concern has been receiving financial support from the main HRT manufacturers for ages. It's quite naive to think of conspiracy theories against women, money is always behind everything.
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